And hen you have body parts belonging to other persons also found with these girls. The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. Estou certa que no foi Lisanne que a tirou. Perhaps he gave some other persons a lift with the girls as is one of the stories out there. I noticed this too. This tells me that they had a time in their minds of what time to leave to get back to their host home in Boquette. The deaths of more than 4,680 people have been documented during migration in Asia since 2014, often linked to the exodus of the Rohingya from Myanmar. You said it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation I agree with you that it seems intentional to some degree. The timeline could have been enhanced with this info. The backpack contained sunglasses, a camera, two cell phones,money,two bras, Froon's passport, and a water bottle. I do get very creepy and bad vibes from this photo though. Would like to know exactly where and when the final day photo was taken. The lower orange being around the belly area. I am not an investigator but I find it very strange that there were no witnesses found either tourists or locals on the trail. It looks like a turtle shell hanging on the right side of the picture (its further up). Like you, I also live abroad in a developing country. However, when theres monetary interests involved, especially within key industries I give those ulterior motives some weight and consideration. Kris and Lisanne's families decided to fly out to Panama and bring Dutch detectives with them. if both then was the other found in their room? The camera could have malfunctioned but this seem highly unlikely. Where is the Ping for that time? she does see something disgusting. Two Dutch women who went missing in April in Panama are now confirmed dead, according to police and the women's families. Turn on desktop notifications for breaking stories about interest? Theres a lot of information in the photos but people are willfully blind to it for some reason. Thats what I see as well. You can even see the smudges or blurring on the bottom of the plants into the dark areas in an attempt to blend the darkness area (where something or someone was likely standing). Anyway thanks again this is such a fascinating case I wish there would be some kind of closure for the families (although I saw a you tube video that interviewed the father of one of the girls, he said that they hired their own investigator and determined they died of an accidental fall. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. Then again, my brain may be playing tricks from staring at it too long. Any comments that are disrespectful or inconsiderate to the families of Kris and Lisanne will be removed by a moderator. Particularly given that you have very admirable aspirations for what you intend to do by investigating the trail on the ground. There is no question thats what it is. I lean towards the third-party theory although I recognize the conflicting aspects of that theory. Ive seen the chronological order of the photos posted by Scarlet and some of the strikes me as being askew. Or perhaps its an offshoot from the trail along a natural gully that leads to a dead-end? If the dog was with them, we cannot know for how long, nor why the dog left the girls. This leads me to believe that they were followed by one or more men who made their presence known around that time. Friends Kris Kremers (born August 9th, 1992) and Lisanne Froon (born September 24th, 1991) were two Dutch tourists who went missing under mysterious circumstances in early April of 2014 while on vacation in Panama, allegedly disappearing during a hike on the Pianista trail near Boquete.. Where did u see that picture ? It also looks like that red item is around her neck as well. Despite the heat and humidity, Panamanians wear long pants and closed-toe shoes. . From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. I see orange spray paint markings on the base of the tree further in the cave to Kriss right. The consumption of Ayahuasca as a religious experimental drug is becoming very common in different countries. Does this take a high level of tech knowledge and a computer? Im just pointing out some peculiar things worth noting. Its perfectly normal and had they not tragically passed, its the type of photo theyd have been joking about later. A serious accident.immediategetting lost just building panic. 90% take place right here in the US in state parks. They place the evidence where it can be found, brining the matter to a close. This tribe was not located near the area where Kris and Lisanne disappeared, and therefore, in no way can be connected to the disappearance of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. One day in June, the tribespeople bring him what he wants; The backpacks and the bodies. I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. In any case, this doesnt give any insight as to why there are no photos taken from that day beyond the first stream crossing. It looks like there may be some red on her face too or other markings. Is there a head count of how many people have perished using the hiking trail in, say the last 10 years? In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. There just seems to be something wrong about this photo, and I dont like her expression. They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. Im impressed how you were able to see the other things in the photo. I think Juan is actively trying to protect this human trafficking agency. In all, the State Department says that in 2013 and 2014, a . Happy reading! See the State Department's travel website for the Worldwide Caution and Travel Advisories. Theyd probably just bury the camera in a deep hole or toss it in the river or ocean. Especially the beams and details, and the cave behind her. Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. He wants the gringos to go away and leave him in peace. Shock and fear and protecting their family from pain was the goal. Probably something like peanut butter, which is a typical energy-dense low cost food carried by people who are traveling light. The backpack and all the contents are so confusing. Think about it. In reality, I dont think someone would go to this extent. Do you think this could be at all relevant? There is what appears to be a well trodden, narrow path to the left of her which passes behind her and enters a very dark area at the back right, which could be the cave. Its interesting numerous people have contacted me anonymously and informed me that there are already multiple existing research teams that are investigating this case privately. Please note: Our team is committed to accuracy of information and respecting the privacy of those involved with this disappearance case. Are any of you familiar with the missing 411 phenomena? But arent there the subsequent photos of Kris Kremers crossing the stream and so the developments may have occurred after this picture 505? The dog wasnt in any photos, nor were the girls photographed after their disappearance. Eight tourists from Moscow who. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, Actually heres uncompressed upscaled original image (upscaled and color corrected with AI). They maintained a great deal of secrecy and privacy and never officially published any information. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Do you have any idea how many people of all ages go missing here every single day. I wanted to her a benefit of the doubt before I came across this article, yes she did mention red and black feathers on a piece of wood and turquoise pendant and a white mask. Snoeren had called West and told her: "With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season. I look forward to learning more and you do valuable humane work helping other young adventurers. For a time, manysuspected Froon and Kremers never got lost on the mountain, but wereinstead victims of a crime in town; this later proved false. I also think that we are looking at man-made roof structure, but its not the last photo, right? Lisanne or Kriss hair and head 4. the dried short (Kriss) 5. both fell but their belongings were intact, no cracks in the phone? And I agree that her hands are free. Fortunately, theres a lot of work still underway from private investigators and researchers. Perhaps the girls were lured there and that is where they met their horrible fate. However, with the high resolution photo, you can more clearly see an organized structure over her head. It must have been flowing in the river the police said. Dutch tourists in Panama Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004. For the most part, foreigners are just caught in the middle. Jane, Recently I have been reading that it is not unusual for people that hike or run in dangerous places and go missing that a shoe with a foot is found. Hi JW, yes I agree with you about many things. If you take small part of a bigger image and blow it up to match the size/aspect ratio of other photos on the card, it will still keep the same number of pixels per square inch, but they will become much bigger. These were of seemingly random objects, like a stick with plastic sticking to it, as well as scenes of foliage, canyons, anda bridge. I think that I read somewhere that something blue was found on one of the shoes. Hi, there sounds plausible but there is something about this case when I start to find some closure that it was an accident OR indeed foul play, I get new evidence from the internet debunking the conclusion I arrived at. From my own gutt feeling I see only a very preventable accident. There IS anecdotal info that Lisannes BF made contact with her at 1400 or so on the 1st April but maybe that was Dutch time not Panama time? Her hands are not tied. Your email address will not be published. Which other objects in this photo look unnatural to you? Remains of 2 American women missing after Panama plane crash recovered But in a country of just 300,000 people, how much tourism is too much? History is not a science but it can include some science. The predator is methodical. I know that its highly irregular for 17 foreigners to uproot their lives and relocate to the obscure jungles of Panama, especially for the purpose of sacrificing locals (whom are often Catholic). All of this leads to resentment and frustration, which results in higher crime rates. Keep in mind nobody has seen all of the photos and we dont know why. Shadow play back and forth, I find it more than weird that you can clearly see the number 5. From the summit, they decided to go in a bit deeper, or just took the wrong exit path by mistake. Unfortunately we dont have a lot of answers to your questions. Just pressing the button to turn the screen on provides you with the relative information, ie, whether you have a signal or not. Its our fingerprints, the police say. Clearly the trash on the rocks indicates it had active people. Tuesday morning, Velleman and Borries were recovered from inside the plane, according to Albert Lewitinn, a representative for the Velleman family. https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/kremers-froon/kris-gully-3composite.jpg. This is an excellent analysis. She turned around and they snapped a photo. In 2020 the number of international visitors to Australia dropped to 6.7 million due . And two months later, a pelvic bone and a foot - still inside a boot - were found in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. She is NOT looking at the ground, but at the camera, with her face up. They got lost and they died of starvation and a hard ration, except for Chriss. Really sad story, whichever way you look. It would also be useful to know if the metatarsal bones of Lisannes foot had showed any signs of healing. Most dog owners here do not use a leash when walking their dogs. I think most of what people are seeing -other than the obvious, of course- is pareidolia. I think they knew too much and someone wanted them to be silenced forever. I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. Certainly this could have been due solely to incompetence alone, but they ignored performing relatively simple investigation tasks more than once. Especially the one where Kris is holding a water bottle 30-40ft from the photo-taker. I too noticed a nose and lips appearing. Also there is a consistency to the timing of SOS attempts occurring two times each day +/ a few minutes of the exact same time. Someone was with the girls when the two photos of them were taken on the Pianista summit. I live in a third world country and sometimes tourists come to grief. The camera and photos were tampered with with photos removed and other photos cropped and reduced in size. https://postimg.cc/94q0cVhH. I really hope the girls rest in peace and that nobody goes through this ever. Granted, other dangers certainly exist and thats why we can only speculate about what happened to them. I cant imagine the rednecks in Alto Romero or the lads from Calderas having the wit to bother with it. I think its equally powerful just to disprove the official theory. Thats the very first thing that crossed my mind. Cheers, Reg. Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. Could be leaves, I suppose, but to me it looks like someone is looking at the them from the vegetation. Im very curious what your experience is living in Latin America, because generalizations like your statement are certainly inconsistent with many disappearance stories and law enforcement activity here. The finding of the backpack 14 miles away is too incredulous to be believed. Emergency. Totally agree. Being in a foreign country, in the tropical rainforests, especially for young curious minds, is a very unique experience. Someone with darkish skin. WHY? You see the pattern to the left and right of her arm. 2. If someone had access to their phones, they might have deleted them. That looks kinda like a monster, Very interesting and thorough analysis. Looks like some of sort of indigenous artifact/trail marker. Solvable: yes; but with each year that goes by less likely. It was probably done by the perpetrators in order to collect the reward money. Even rainwater gets heavy enough to destroy electronics inside of a backpack yet that didnt happen. Despite these . So easily noticeable. Can it explain Lisannes foot that was broken? During thistime,Kremers and Froon repeatedly called for help. This article seems to have a crop from high resolution version of the above photo. Panamanian screwed up the investigation monumentally, but I would think that the private detectives followed up all the leads: after all, they were getting paid a lot of money for it.