Not everything is a conspiracy. Unlike most people who stayed on the streets all day, she maintained a neat, attractive appearance, wearing makeup and a dress or skirt each day. But investigators conceded they had no solid evidence against Andrew. Sorry not sorry. The womans whereabouts were relayed to law enforcement in Ross Township last year, Deputy Chief Brian Kohlhepp said. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. Her mother was married to my uncle. Great catch. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. The witness, Traupman, who on several occasions attempted to have his evidence recorded was severely manhandled out of the police station and so badly beaten, he had to be hospitalised. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. Browns action to grant clemency was rescinded after discovering that Patricia Wright had two prior felonies from when her son stole two 99-cent toys and a hand towel from an open house 15 years earlier. One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. Stop it.. Patricia complied fully with the original investigation of the crime and wasnt a suspect because none of the blood or fingerprints found at the crime scene matched hers. It's been a long three years for them.". The defense argued that the 911 call is not clear and that Said was targeted by investigators because he is a Muslim. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. Amina two bullets in the heart.". At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. Media galore. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. Patricia Wrights brother, Larry Wright, 47, and her neighbor, Janet Marcelin, 55, both testified that Patricia Wright and Lawrence Slaughter committed the murder but recanted their testimony after Patricia was sentenced to life without possibility of parole. in journalism from the University of Southern California. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. Above, we have another whos totally clueless, has little or no knowledge of this case, but is happy to display his/her ignorance with a rant based on limited knowledge learned from biased documentaries who thinks that by using offensive and insulting language itll influence those who support Rorrer into changing their opinions. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. She was wrongfully convicted.. Great communicator. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. I think shes guilty for sure. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. Keep up your delusions. Tragedy also touched Patricias life. Gail Gattrell, the sisters great-aunt, described the deaths as an honor killing which are often carried about by a relative who believes a woman went against conservative Islamic values on love or marriage. Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. Jenkins was a teacher at St. Johnsbury Academy. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. The men harbored Yaser Said inside an apartment in Bedford, according to court documents, and he was nearly captured after a maintenance worker spotted him in August 2017. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. Said's defense attorney said he will be filing a notice to appeal. His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Instead, he hid for 12 years until the FBI found him in a relatives home in Denton County. They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. Did you personally attend the trial? It seems so, according to you. The Charley Project offers details of the womans life before she went missing: She walked throughout the city, approaching strangers and telling them shed had a vision of the Virgin Mary and the world was about to end. Presumably if they thought the evidence was against the states case, thats how theyd present as theres no obvious reason for them to be biased one way or the other. Anyone who thinks this psycho isnt guilty needs to take off their tin hat. I decided to just plead guilty to get it over with.. Hoist by my own petard! Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. Although the prosecution used it as evidence that she was trying to create a false alibi, it actually sounded more like Patricia was simply trying to nail down the facts he had already asserted to her. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. You are absolutely right. Look into it. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. I thought the same. she didnt need to . which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. One on one? Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. It was just assumed to be crib death. "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. It was Patricias hair no question. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple that infamously pointed guns at demonstrators who were marching past their house last summer, have pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in the incident. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. No explanation given. Black said she was glad Said took the witness stand, giving her the chance to poke holes in his story, exposing him to everyone who has been watching this case. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Bob Kopta said that his wife had mental health issues and had spoken of going to the warm climate of the island. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. It says that Andrew Katrinak passed his lie detector test. Trash-talking ex. Forensic tests suggested the hair found in the car and at the murder scene came from Patricia. Read the crime and public safety news your neighbors are talking about. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. She was falsely convicted of killing her husband when the Los Angeles Police Department reopened a 17-year-old cold case after coercing two witnesses to tape a confession pegging Patricia Wright and family friend Lawrence Slaughter as the killers. All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. Both were deceased. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? "This is the 13th case solved after the creation of the cold case task force," said El Dorado County District Attorney Vern Pierson. You, however seem to have no problem with these hurtful and damaging comments aimed at Rorrer. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. 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Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. Islam Said, Yasseins 32-year-old nephew, pleaded guilty to the same charges last month in connection with the effort to protect Yaser Said, 63, who had been a fugitive since 2008. The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. Some people are just monsters. "It's been an honor and privilege to stand up and be an advocate for Sarah. Jealousy was the motive. The Dallas County jury returned a guilty verdict on Tuesday following about three hours of deliberations at the end of the six-day trial. Jenkins at one time had hired Allen Prue to plow her driveway. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. You murdered your girls," she said. "I'm not sorry we were caught. According to the Charley Project, a missing persons database named after Charles Brewster Charley Ross, one of the first Americans kidnapped for a ransom in the nations history, Patricia Kopta went missing in June 1992 and was reported missing in November 1992. Youll have to make do with what you see here. According to court documents, Yassein and Islam Said had been communicating with Yaser Said since Jan. 1, 2008, to help him evade capture. Whats worse is that shes innocent. He was sentenced Said to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. You say by definition! Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. Jenkins' assailant Patricia Prue was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on Friday after deciding to plead guilty the day before to charges of aggravated attempted murder, kidnapping and conspiracy. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. According to the autopsy report, Patricias husband, Jerome Scott, had only a few months to live because of a health problem involving a bloodless liver and pancreatic fibrosis. Book her. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. The defense also criticized Irving Police and federal investigators, claiming they did not properly investigate the case or look for other suspects. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. I dont think so. Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! Whatever the truth is. "It's been a long time coming for the family and the community," Warren said. Follow her on Twitter at www.twitter.com/LizMurraySMC. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. They are a joke. My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. We really thought she was dead all those years. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. Plus, two men, her babys father and his friend, testified they saw Patricia at the line-dancing club the night of the homicide. Patricia Prue had been planning to use an insanity defense if the case were to go to trial, but she asked the court in December if she could change her plea so she could begin corresponding with her husband once again. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a fine of $2,000. All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. A Texas man who carried out the mass shooting at the Cielo Vista Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3, 2019, killing 23 people and injuring 22 more, pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court to a 90-count indictment, including 45 counts of violating the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. Have you read the book? Yaser Said is accused of killing his two teenage daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. You people are fighting a losing cause! If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). Or did they? Aside from the hair, there was almost zero forensic evidence. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. His defense team raised concerns about what they considered a lack of evidence during closing arguments. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. Nobody said bodies were intact. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Traupman died in 2016. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. Immediately after getting out of prison in the year 2000, Larry wrote a detailed letter stating that he lied about his sisters involvement in the death of her husband. As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all.
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